Wednesday, March 08, 2006

De Nile is not only a river in Egypt

I was linking from Normblog and hit upon Terry Glavin's site and as I read some of the comments I became stupified because of the following:

My thoughts and prayers go to Trevor Greene, his family, his friends. What happened to him is terrible, tragic, totally unwarranted, inexcusable. All violent acts perpetrated by human beings upon each other are terrible, needless, inexcusable. That said, I am against the war, because of it being a "war", whereas 'peacekeeping' should be that: 'keeping the peace', and 'promoting peace' by truly humanitarian actions. A family friend's son is also in Afghanistan. He too believes he is helping, and making a genuine difference. I honestly don't know.. My problem is with the bellicosity of people like Hillier who want to "kill the scum", and such statements that echo those of Bush & Company. Large numbers of armed soldiers--regardless of how well-intentioned they may be--look like occupation forces to the afghanies, rather than peacekeepers, especially if they are aligned with the U.S., who is seen as the 'big bully' since its invasion of Iraq. (Perhaps if the U.S. withdrew from there altogether, NATO peacekeeping could begin in earnest without the U.S. who are perceived as 'occupiers'.)? Maybe I am naive, but I feel that peace can be achieved only by peaceful, diplomatic means. "Democracy" (or any kind of regime-change) must come to a country from within, not foisted arbitrarily at gunpoint (and bombs) from outside, by another nation. The Afghanis have been under foreign occupation for decades upon decades. Is it possible that they've finally had enough? Is it not up to them to decide the fate of their country? If indeed it is as lawless as I've read from many reports, is our presence making any positive difference? Sure the Ambassador will say he wants the troops to stay. It is to the benefit of some people, no doubt. But is that what the majority of afghanies really want? Having lived through a terrible revolution in my mother country as a little girl, I had personally witnessed death and destruction. Because of that, war has left an indelible wound on my psyche, and since then, I abhor wars of any nature, for any reason. Still, I do not consider myself a pseudo-leftist or partisan of any particular party. If I am to be labelled, I guess it would be as being a progressive humanist. I just wish someone could give me an honest, believable reason for this war in Afghanistan. From all that I read, the Taliban is still in control everywhere with the exception of a few cities, and the opium trade is flourishing better than ever. This, how many years after the U.S. invasion?
The comments were made by Annamarie Deneen, a published and erstwhile literary figure.


So..................... I said:

You posted on Terry Glavin's blog the other day a very pointed elucidation of what seems an inner conflict that tears at you from within. You express sincere condolences to Trevor Greene'’s family and expanded on your inner revulsion for such needless loss. You say:

“My thoughts and prayers go to Trevor Greene, his family, his friends.
What happened to him is terrible, tragic, totally unwarranted, inexcusable.
All violent acts perpetrated by human beings upon each other are terrible, needless, inexcusable.
That said, I am against the war, because of it being a "war", whereas 'peacekeeping' should be that: 'keeping the peace', and 'promoting peace' by truly humanitarian actions.
A family friend's son is also in
Afghanistan. He too believes he is helping, and making a genuine difference. I honestly don't know..

Well, maybe we can communicate but I doubt it. The fact that you said,

I honestly don'’t know.

Gives me a window, unless you are only saying that to pretend that you really are looking at all sides of the equation. Your writings give me the impression that you are a blind idealistic peacenik I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Maybe you don'’t really know.

Sincerely, I find it really hard to understand that you, if I am to believe what you have posited as your genesis, that being a victim of the eastern European desecration of humanity now want to give in to what-ever totalitarian scum who would snuff you in an instant, just so you can rise above the fray and say, “I was pure,” I did not raise my hand to my fellow man!

Maybe I am naive, but I feel that peace can be achieved only by peaceful, diplomatic means.”Democracy" (or any kind of regime-change) must come to a country from within, not foisted arbitrarily at gunpoint (and bombs) from outside, by another nation.”

No you are not naive. You are an Idiotarian. You are a useful idiot! You and your ilk are responsible for millions of unnecessary deaths in the world and yet you espouse a useless and totally ridiculous mantra. There are hundreds of thousands of dedicated nut jobs out there who would like nothing better than to torture, rape and then kill you in the most brutal manner you could ever imagine.

What boggles the mind is that you profess that we can negotiate, talk, reason, and come to an understanding or whatever with these brutal bastards. You are NUTS.

So, by your own standards, when we liberated Paris from the Nazis, we did wrong? And the Parisians euphoria was a sham?

Your idealism is not to be commended. You are a pathetic and sad individual who has for whatever reason shirked her responsibilities as an honest citizen of Canada and capitulated to a cowardly agenda of appeasement.

You want an honest and believable reason for being in Afstan? Let me give you one!

An oppressed people who cry for help need support.

Are you so calloused that you don'’t know what the Taliban did to women in Afghanistan?

Have you not seen the clandestine videos of the butchery of women in the Olympic stadium?

Are you nuts?

You disgust me!

You portend to be a woman of letters and in reality you are a disgraceful shill and enabler for any petty dictator who would enslave his people.

I hate to say it but it needs to be said. You are a gutless woman. Your peace crap is just that, “shit." I cannot fathom how anyone who is being targeted for extinction can just sit there and say"“Ok, bring it on, I won'’t stop you, in fact, I will enable you"

You say:

"My problem is with the bellicosity of people like Hillier who want to "kill the scum", and such statements that echo those of Bush & Company"

What'’s your problem with killing the “scum" that have no compunction about killing you because you are not on his band wagon?

Again, are you nuts?

You say:

"Large numbers of armed soldiers--regardless of how well-intentioned they may be--look like occupation forces to the Afghanis, rather than peacekeepers, especially if they are aligned with the U.S., who is seen as the 'big bully' since its invasion of Iraq.
(Perhaps if the
U.S. withdrew from there altogether, NATO peacekeeping could begin in earnest without the U.S. who are perceived as 'occupiers'.)? "

You make no sense whatsoever! Afghanistan was forcibly taken over by a bunch of nut jobs. The people couldn'’t even open their mouths without being shot. WE liberated them! We are helping them get their self esteem back. We are helping them keep out the outsiders who would enslave them AGAIN! They are organizing their own government with our help. You need to really listen to some of the people who have come forward and said what our intervention has meant to the common folk.

Your obsequious pandering to folks like St. Noam gives the lie to your real agenda as pathetic as it is. Please spare us the odd pandering effusive,”But I care” platitudes.

You couldn't care less! It’s your “I don'’t care if everyone on earth is butchered but I didn'’t lift a hand so you can'’t blame me,” attitude that really defines you.

You remind me of those poor disillusioned Jews who, as they were marching to the gas chambers of Auschwitz were heard to say," We'll be ok as long as we don't upset them."



She has a blog which only, after a cursory inspection reveals her modus operandi, is pure kumbya krap.

I believe that this woman really believes what she espouses as being the only way to go. Too bad she hasn't spent a few months in Saudi Arabia or a host of other countries I could name. As I said before," naive" no! Idiot, yes!

I nods to Terry Glavin.

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